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Faith After Brokenness
What happens when God meets you at your lowest point? For Pastor Jovanna Moreno, it was a divine encounter on a mountaintop at age 18 that forever changed her trajectory from a suicidal young mother to a passionate minister of healing.
Pastor Jovanna shares her remarkable 30-year journey with raw authenticity, revealing how God wrapped His arms around her in her darkest moment and promised to "heal her to the uttermost." This tangible experience of God's love became the foundation for her ministry to the brokenhearted.
Drawing from her unique background as both a pastor and a professional with 23 years in mental health and addiction treatment, Jovanna brings profound insight to the intersection of spiritual and psychological healing. She challenges religious approaches that dismiss mental health struggles with simplistic solutions, while maintaining unwavering faith in Christ's power to heal completely.
"Ministry doesn't make you; it can kill you," she warns, emphasizing that relationship with God must precede service to others. Throughout our conversation, Jovanna repeatedly returns to the theme of identity—finding our worth as daughters and sons before functioning in any ministry role or title.
What sets this episode apart is Pastor Jovanna's practical wisdom about integrating faith naturally into every area of life. At her beauty business, Amethyst Essence Co., clients often experience therapeutic healing without a single scripture being quoted. "I truly believe Holy Spirit is such a part of me that my touch is setting them free," she explains, demonstrating how authentic presence can be more powerful than religious language.
Whether you're struggling with trauma, battling for mental wellness, juggling multiple responsibilities, or simply seeking to deepen your relationship with God, Pastor Jovanna's testimony will inspire you to remove your veil before God and experience the freedom that comes when Holy Spirit has lordship over every area of your life.
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Welcome to Overcomer podcast. My name is Maggie Wynn. I am your host. I just want to thank you today for watching Overcomer, for tuning in. I pray that you will share and like this video, all of you digital disciples that are out there. I thank you for tuning in and so I want to encourage you today that, as you sit and watch, know that God has ordained you to sit at this moment to be able to receive what God has for you. And maybe we don't know what you're going through and what you're experiencing or what you're feeling deep down inside, but I know that God does. God knows and he sees your heart and he understands, more than anyone else in the world, what you need at this hour, and so I'm. I pray that, as you continue to watch Overcomer podcast, that you will be able to receive what you need.
Speaker 1:So I want to talk to you about Pastor Jovanna Moreno. Just give you an introduction on who she is. She lives in Fresno with her husband of 20 years. They have four adult children, with one grandson. They're senior pastors and founders of the Adullam Worship Center, which proclaims the unadulterated word of God, full living by the Holy Spirit's directing. She has been in ministry for the last three decades, she has been a speaker at numerous conferences, not only throughout California's Central Valley but the US as well.
Speaker 1:Jovanna has a deep passion for the brokenhearted and Christian spirit to be free and free. Indeed. Esthetician and a certified life coach with over two decades of experience working in the mental health space as well as in addiction medicine, for such a time as this, I believe it is her time and she's an amazing woman that's going to rise and continue to be great in ministering to women that are brokenhearted, have gone through some major, major downfalls in their lives, and how she has been resilient in her faith to come back up and to be all that God has called her to be and use what the enemy meant for evil and turned it around for God's glory. She's a blessing to many women in her life. She pours out with an abundance of love and passion. Are we ready for you, ms Giovanna? Pastor Jovanna, welcome, we have been waiting for you, welcome, welcome, welcome. Tell us how's your day been. It's been a blessing. We're glad to have you. We have shared a lot about you today so far. All right, let's see here, let's dive in.
Speaker 2:So tell me about yourself today, tell us what led you to ministry. It'll be like a magnet, right, like when you put two magnets together. You feel that, that pulling. That's what I felt with Holy Spirit since I was actually a little girl. Actually, if you look over your life, you'll see a thread throughout your life of the calling that God has already put on you before you were here on earth, right, and so I see this threading.
Speaker 2:But I would say, about the age 18 is when I was prophesied over actually by Juanita Bynum, over actually by Juanita Bynum for those that know Juanita Bynum, Dr. Bynum, and, uh, she had actually prophesied, actually, what I'm living out right now. I'm living out that prophecy, you know, and so, um, but how I would want people to see me or view me or know me is as a daughter, as a daughter of the most high God, because I'm more than just a pastor, I'm more than a minister, I'm more than you know oh, he does this or X, y and Z, or a mother. I'm a daughter of the most high God and I really want to be viewed in that place because it keeps us humbled. Sometimes, you know, if you're not careful, then you just start operating in your title. Instead of your identity, your heavenly identity.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about faith and ministry. What inspired you besides pursuing life and ministry Because the Holy Spirit, of course, gave that to you and as your journey evolved over the years. Can you share a memorable moment from your time as a pastor that significantly impacted your faith?
Speaker 2:from your time as a pastor that significantly impacted your faith. Well, maybe not as a pastor, I'm going to go back as a daughter that significantly impacted my life and I think that we have to have that impact, that head-on collision with Holy Spirit, with Abba, father, before you do with ministry, because ministry is not something that makes you, it actually can kill you. It is very weighty and if we don't consider the cost and we jump into something in that. So I want to say that my impact and the place that really stirred up inside me to want to say yes, lord, yes, lord, was the moment that, as an 18-year-old on a mountaintop, broken, wanting to commit suicide in a relationship that was very abusive, I was a mom, a young mom, so my daughter was just about one years old and I knew about God, but I didn't know him.
Speaker 2:And as a 18 year old, on a mountaintop, He met me there, like he wrapped his arms around me, where I knew that he wasn't just a figure of my imagination, he wasn't just what my family talked about or our culture or something we did. He became real to me. He hugged me and he placed his hand right on my heart and said I know you're so broken, my daughter, but if you allow me, I will heal you to the uttermost. And at that moment He was real to me, like he, this, was not a hug from a man, it was not dirty, it was safe. I felt protected and in that moment I knew that that's who I was, that was where I belong.
Speaker 2:All the time I was looking for love and needed to be loved so bad. And all along, really, it was always with me because he's always with me. And so at that moment I declared to the Lord I want to tell anybody and everybody about just how good you are, which, fast forward, has me passionately in my position as a pastor and now, by the grace of God, my husband and I lead pastors, co-founders of Adullam and worship center. But my yes stays firm and solid and steadfast because of that encounter 30 years ago. So, no matter what takes place today, no matter how heavy it feels, no matter the pressing on every angle, every corner, the crushing that takes place, I know that. I know at the end, the crushing is only going to produce that authentic, genuine oil, because I stay at that place knowing that on the mountaintop he found me, he found me, so that keeps me where I'm at today. That's what keeps my faith and keeps me going.
Speaker 1:Awesome. Okay, tell me about the deep passion that you have. I know that you have a passion for helping the broken hearted. As a daughter, how have you contributed to helping those other women to be able to become whole and heal? Through your own experiences?
Speaker 2:think that that's exactly that the authority of me going through a lot of betrayal, abandonment, rejection. At that moment you don't understand and it's very consuming to be able to walk somebody else out in that, to be able to help. You know it's not if you don't appreciate those moments that you're so broken, right, betrayal, it doesn't feel good, right, it's. In that moment you're just like it feels awful, it's crushing, it hits the core of who you are. But when I stand across another woman or a young adult or anyone that is really feeling brokenhearted, at that moment everything that I've been through makes sense, it makes it worth it. It makes it worth it because I'm looking at someone and there's just this different anointing that takes place, or this authority that takes place when I look across you and say I know what you're going through and I'm willing to hold your hand all the way through, not leave you here, not let you stay here, but introduce you to someone that healed me to the other. Most is going to heal you and really staying in that right connection, not sugarcoating You're not going to get sugarcoating from me, because I know what God has done for me and how he's done it and, um, just really sitting there and speaking, speaking God's word over them, letting them know. Sometimes we read God's scriptures just to read it and it becomes head knowledge, but not lived out in your heart, right, it's not something that you've really connected with. I always tell people you could read scripture all day long, but if you're reading it out of an intellectual part, you're never going to gain what the breath of God is wanting to do, and that is give you life you know, to activate his spirit inside you. So for 23 years of my life in the marketplace, I got to work in mental health. I did what we worked substance abuse and also mental health. So we did dual diagnosing and, yes, trauma can be.
Speaker 2:I do see a lot of mental health that was induced by trauma, right, and it is a real thing that the church, I think, gets afraid of. And we'll try to just dismiss it with a few scriptures. And let me anoint you, and it's done. And the truth is that on the cross Jesus said it is finished. So I believe that at the cross we are healed by the stripes on his back. We are healed from everything it said, from every sickness and disease and dis and dis ease, right, diseases and dis ease, the dis ease of the mind, of your heart. I believe that it's already been healed, it's already been paid for and it is just a matter of fact of allowing ourselves to believe it and let it be manifest within us right now. Right, so people get frustrated in the here and now and not the yet right. It's in that middle part. But, yes, I have seen mental health, but I also know that I also met and see Yahweh, who is the healer of that. And so just really walking people through it and saying, ok, you were, you have anxiety, but anxiety does not define who you are Right. Don't label yourself with that. You know, you know well. They said I'm bipolar. Do not label yourself as bipolar.
Speaker 2:When I read over scripture, I see that when Yeshua was walking here on earth, he healed even those that had schizophrenia. So there is nothing too hard, nothing too hard. I hold on to scripture and Luke. I want to say Luke 1: 37. There is power in his scripture, so not one of his promises. So if there is a promise that by his stripes I am healed from every sickness and every disease or dis-ease, that means there's power in that promise. So I got to take hold of that promise. I got to own it. I got to. I got to receive it for myself and believe it in the power, the supernatural power, will be released in me.
Speaker 1:Do you think that you you mentioned something about um, if they come to you, they're not going to, you're not going to sugarcoat anything. Can you elaborate on that for me? Because I think that every woman is in a different level and there's women that are in levels where they're very sensitive to certain things and there's women that are ready to receive the truth that they want someone to tell them the honesty, but then there's some women that are really not there yet, or they don't even know that they're not there yet.
Speaker 1:How do you handle and how do you discern between the two, when there is one that is not there yet and the one that is? And I know that the Holy Spirit leads us. How do you?
Speaker 2:handle it. I think that that's knowing the lane that the Holy Spirit has put you in, knowing your giftings, not just saying, oh, I walk with the gift or the office of a prophet, right, so I'm prophetess, I'm apostle, I'm a pastor, I'm a teacher, and walking with that understanding, but not truly having a revelation of understanding, knowledge and wisdom in it, in your gifting. Right, so you got to know your gifts. You got to know, you got to sharpen your gifts. You got to sit, and that is only done at the place and at the feet of Yeshua, meaning, in your word, being sensitive. So, just as the apostle Paul said I will be unto what to those where they're at right, so do I.
Speaker 2:When I say I don't sugarcoat doesn't mean I come in heavy handed to everybody and say this is just the word right, repent, for the kingdom of God is at hand. You know, repent now or you're burning. No, not like that Right. And I think that the church will do that. They'll take it in and say, well, you don't sugarcoat. That means you got to be heavy handed in me. No, no, no, I'm not going to sugarcoat, meaning I love friends will see it. Say I love you where you're at I love you for all of you are right and we get excited oh, my friend loves me for who I am, everything about me. But a true mentor would say I love you and I will not leave you where you're at.
Speaker 2:So, having discernment and saying, ok, holy Spirit, you, this person standing before me, you obviously brought him in my path. You know them where they're at. So, sitting there and seeing someone and saying, okay, this person's a little bit more sensitive. Like you said, some are ready, some are like, tell me as it is playing out, matter of fact, I need you to be a little heavy handed because I'm stubborn. Some are like I'm so gentle as a dove that if you yell at me, I take it all wrong. I'm crying and I'm running, I'm scared. So it really takes Holy Spirit and it really takes you at that place, because there's times of people that I got to sit and I'm a little bit more gentle and patient and that grace is extended for where they're at, in their, in their healing process, in that journey of healing.
Speaker 2:So, but I won't sugarcoat this. I'm not going to say, well, you know, keep doing it, you're OK. No, I'm going to be scripture and I'm going to say but this is what scripture says. The facts are that right now, you're so brokenhearted because of betrayal, but the truth is this, and bring out scripture. So, because it is the truth that sets us free. Right, it's the truth that sets us free, nothing else. So I don't sugarcoat by just saying these are Giovanna's opinions, this is my ideas, this is my feelings. I'm going to bring it right back to scripture, because scripture is going to allow that person to be completely set free. That's good.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I totally agree with that.
Speaker 2:You got to know your gift and use discernment. Not sugarcoating does not mean not being kind and gentle, because the scripture teaches us you need to be gentle as a dove, yet sharp as a serpent. I got to be witty and know, but I got to be gentle to know when Holy Spirit's in this one. I need you to just not start deliverance by commanding things to come out, but I need you to go in there but by loving them, just hug them. Just hug them because deliverance will start there, because then they feel safe and then they feel like okay. I think of myself as that 18 year old. Had the father not hugged me the way he hugged me, I probably would have been afraid to not trust because I didn't trust nobody, Right, so right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, and I know you, you are also an entrepreneur, right? So how does um?
Speaker 2:can you discuss how that integrates into your ministry, um, I like to integrate it to uh, ministry. I say that it's ministry. Whatever the lord has placed before me will tie into kingdom, uh, yes. So, holy Spirit, he's just I just tell you, he's just funny, I'm like you have like that much faith in me.
Speaker 2:So at the same time that a dual worship center was being birthed and starting that process, I got this, just everything that was falling in place for me to open up my own business, which is Amethyst Essence Co. And it is unfiltered beauty, and so I'm a licensed esthetician at that. I'm also a life coach and I'm a life I have my certificate in for insurance and stuff. So I try to incorporate that in how I could help people, right? So my business, amethyst I do incorporate it because I do life coaching and I want those that come through the door that they would realize that the beauty comes, starts, from within. So when they come in and you may want to get your lashes done or your your eyebrows on fleek, you're going to come in feeling in a place that's so safe and most I would say 99.999% it's a therapy session, and so they'll sit and open up, and so I allow the Holy Spirit to use that as an opportunity.
Speaker 2:And I have to say this I'm so confident in the Holy Spirit that not every time we got to dump scripture on people, right? So I don't got to say, hey, you know you're, and start just preaching like that it is, it is. I truly believe that holy spirit is such a part of me that, as they're laying there, my touch is setting them free, not my touch. Okay. So, because this is live, they're like she's, her Holy Spirit's, touched through me. Right, start healing them. And I have never said one word about scripture, but I'm living out scripture that he is close to the broken hearted and those that are questioned spirit.
Speaker 2:Right, I'll make them feel such a way that Psalms 139, 14 will come alive to them, that you are perfectly and wonderfully made, without ever even quoting that to them. But they'll leave and they'll come back. They'll say you know what? When I was here, I don't know, I was feeling so down and so ugly, but I realized, like I was created like that, what is it about you? All they got to say is what it is about you. Then that gives me full range. Like you want to know what's about me. Jesus is about me.
Speaker 1:That's good. How do you manage? How do you manage to maintain, with all of the roles that you play, to keep a balance? You know cause. I know that pastor life is hard. I know you're working, you're have your own business and then your life coach, so you're constantly pouring out into people. How do you manage to maintain your spiritual and mental wellbeing?
Speaker 2:maintain your spiritual and mental well-being. So, balance I think we as Americans made up that word balance because it sounds right Like I got to have a balance. Make sure you're right there with your family, Make sure you go to the church, Make sure you do this. But the truth is that Philippians 14, 13 has to come in place for me that I can do all things through Christ and who strengthens me, not even within my own strength, my own ability. So to balance, I think I would drive myself insane because it doesn't make sense to balance. There's absolutely no way, because how can you?
Speaker 2:You know people say, oh, I multitask. That's really not even. That's not even true. You can't multitask. You're giving something more of your attention than the other. So, honestly, I only do it by the grace of God. I sit with Holy Spirit all the time and I'm like have I put anything on my plate that's outside of my capacity that you have given me? Because if the weight feels heavy burden, then I've added something to my, my journey, my plate, my weight. That wasn't him. My yes came for something else. So I have to reevaluate and sit with the Holy spirit, say okay, you've given me this capacity to pastor a church and it be a baby. Open up a, a spa, um, be a mom, be a life coach, pour out and and be a wife and still be, you know, a mommy. That I don't say grandma, I'm a mommy. So I need you to be able to, Nana, yeah.
Speaker 1:Right, Nana don't call me grandma.
Speaker 2:That's not of the lord. Right now I'm so, really I wouldn't say. The answer for me is how I balance it, as I always bring things to holy spirit. Am I adding anything on here that's not of you? And that's usually when I feel a heavy burden right, when I'm like, oh, I, I can't, there's just so much I want, I'm stressing, I'm like wait, wait, wait. God does not take you anywhere, that his grace is not with you. So if I feel tired yes, that's different than burden, right, it is going to feel weighty Then I just sit and I just go replenish myself with Holy Spirit, because he's the one that does it, it's just him.
Speaker 2:And when I feel like I'm suffering, I love 2 Corinthians 4, 17, where the Apostle Paul is really telling us that even the suffering that I have right now is not in comparison to his glory, to his glory. So I always remind myself, even when everything feels so weighty, even if I'm so pressed, or I just can't make nobody happy, or I can't people are getting offended, or I didn't say hi enough, or this person and it feels so pressing, or you know, there's no such thing as a woman pastor. You shouldn't be pastoring, you shouldn't be preaching and you shouldn't have said it like this. And I went around the church like this and how come you did my lashes like this? And how, when, when it gets so pressing like that and you get to want to ask yourself, why am I doing this? Then I say you know what? It is not in comparison to the glory that, that that awaits us and that is to be in his presence. So I just keep saying I say yes, lord, as long as I know you're in it, right?
Speaker 1:that's right. That's right, that is so. You know, I have developed this thing a while back because I was listening to someone and they were quoting scripture, like left and right, and ministering to someone, and it was like speaking a different language to this individual Right, and I said you know what? I can see the confusion in that person's face. They have no idea what they're talking about, right? And I feel so bad and I just kind of like stayed away, I backed off because I was like you know, there's, that's what they're doing, so I was just going to let them be. But I went home and I was like God, I never want to come across confusing to someone like that and so what I said to myself?
Speaker 1:I said teach me, holy Spirit, how to give those same words without having to have the scripture. I don't have to quote it, I know it, but I don't have to give it to them in every sentence. And so I developed this language that they have no idea that I'm bringing them word and I'm speaking to them in the normal language, but everything that I speak is in the word of God. Them in the normal language, but everything that I speak is in the word of God. And and so I did it because I was thinking am I working in this area? For what? Like God, I do want to make money, but am I fulfilling your purpose? Cause I really want to fulfill your purpose.
Speaker 1:And that was the one thing that I remember the Holy spirit asking him for that years ago. And so I developed it with people out on the street and I would say things and I wouldn't quote scripture. I just knew that it was a scripture, but they didn't. And they were like, oh my God, that really speaks to me and I was like well in my head. I was like, well, yes, because it's the word of God.
Speaker 1:And so then now, when I think about it and I integrate it into the workplace, it's like it's subtle.
Speaker 2:you know it's like the word of God says be wise, right. So I'm like being wise.
Speaker 1:Yeah, at the same time, I'm not going to get in trouble because I'm bringing in my own beliefs, but I know that it's life, thank you, I'm going to go thing to do that. When people hear our language and I say that because when I walked into this corporate setting, I didn't understand their language either, and my boss would tell me it's going to come with time You're going to learn to develop this language, and I think it's the same thing with nonbelievers they don't understand our Christianese, you know, they don't understand our lingo, and I think that if you break it down to their simple things, those things are going to be important because you're going to be at their level, and that's the best way to be humble about it. Instead of oh, you know, you know because, and and and after time is like it becomes a natural thing that you know, you know that is scripture, but the non-believer doesn't, but that's okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:So my, my next question to you would be with all of the knowledge that you have and all the things, the things that you've integrated into your ministry, how do you and what? What is the better tomorrow that you want to see? Cause I know you have a heart for people and you want to and the broken hearted. So what is your view and your picture of what it looks like for a better tomorrow?
Speaker 2:Not holding back who Jesus is to the world is a better tomorrow. And I do agree with you at at a hundred percent as being sensitive to those that we don't get "Christianese or we don't get, so a bubble. I mean, what am I trying to say? Like some people would just want to quote scripture so that they look very smart and intellectual in in scripture, right, for for whatever reason, we think that quoting more scripture just makes it that more anointed or more Christian, right, and it doesn't. So that's where being sensitive in the spirit comes, because I have to say personally, when I gave my life to the Lord, I knew nothing about anything and I gave my life to the Lord. He found me in a place where it was very, very Christian, very, I mean, people were falling out in the spirit, people were speaking in their heavenly language.
Speaker 2:I was terrified. I thought that I was in it, I thought I was out right. I was like whoa, and I was scared. I was like what are they going to do to me? Is this a? You know what is happening? Like, and I was scared. I was like what are they going to do to me? Is this a quote? You know what is happening and I was terrified. As a matter of fact, I was even praying like God please don't let them do any kind of sacrifice to me or something. I'm just here, I know nobody, not one soul that I know nobody.
Speaker 2:I was 18 year old in a charismatic Pentecostal singles retreat, coming from Catholicism, so it was a culture shock and I really didn't understand nothing. So the part is that if you're really coming out of a place that is Holy spirit led, it won't be confusing to the spirit inside of us. So you have to have discernment, because I was a director in the medical field, like I said, mental health, substance abuse, family practice and they knew that I was a pastor, they knew I was a woman of God and when permitted, when Holy Spirit said, I spoke to them. Even I and I would say this I know your mind because I was there maybe thinking like what the heck are you talking about? But I would say, don't worry about it, I'm speaking to your spirit.
Speaker 2:Sometimes we do have to be sensitive because the world is going to be confused, no matter what. Right, like I learned, because I had this encounter with someone, that I wanted to know them better, right. So if I meet you, maggie, and I really don't know who you are, but there's something about you that is drawing, and I like you. I want to research you more, I want to talk to you more, I want to connect with you, and that is the same way, if you're not afraid to allow Holy Spirit to operate through us. It might confuse someone, they might feel scared, but they're going to want like, what is that? Like how you said that made me feel so good. You know a scripture, but it's Holy Spirit coming alive to them.
Speaker 2:So a better tomorrow is us, as children of God. Is not afraid to speak his truth, no matter what, to live a life that mirrors Yeshua. We need to mirror him, because that's what the world needs. It needs to know that, that he came for them, that he loves them, no matter where they're at, what they've done, what they're doing, what they did last night. And and the church, the body of Christ, needs to do a better job at letting them see the love of Christ and not the condemnation, because we don't. We're not. He didn't come to condemn, but he came to to share his love, right To give that hope, and so for me, a better tomorrow is that that person that is so brokenhearted to the point of not wanting to live that that we do a, a that we're in our right place, so that we can mirror Christ's love the right way.
Speaker 1:Okay, what are the hopes for your future of the church in the community in Fresno?
Speaker 2:My hope is that the sick will come. I know Holy Spirit said that a dual worship center was going to be like a hospital and one thing I know about hospitals is they're not shortage of patients. And one thing I know about hospitals is they're not shortage of patients. Patients come in with all kinds of different sicknesses, diseases, brokenness, things. Those patients can come and that we're ready to receive them, to to do healing in their heart. Right, that we would do a spiritual heart surgery, brain surgery. So the mind, so that there's a mindset change, because we need a mindset change. So that that is my prayer, my hope for a dual worship center that it's not a shortage of patients but that they don't stay bound as patients, that they end up switching the garment, if that makes sense, A garment coming in as a patient but then changing it to a doctor, so that they can also give what was given to them.
Speaker 1:If they'd like to have you on their in their church, a conference, or how can they reach you.
Speaker 2:An Instagram page. Adullam worship center.
Speaker 1:Take as long as you need to and share, and my biggest thing would be to encourage you, know and give hope to the many people that face doubt and despair, the message of hope that was given to you.
Speaker 2:I do want to read 2 Corinthians and I love the Passion Translation 2 Corinthians, 3, 17,. I'll start. And it says Now, the Lord I'm referring to is the Holy Spirit, and wherever he is Lord, there is freedom. And I'm going to say that one more time. For that person that feels so bound that, no matter how much you try to be free, no matter how much you try to be healed, there's times there's someone that keeps saying but I keep trying, I keep trying to read my word, I keep trying to go to church, and I find myself in the very thing that that keeps me bound. It says now, the Lord I'm referring to is the Holy Spirit, and wherever he is Lord, there is freedom. So Holy Spirit needs to be our Lord in those, in those areas of your life. Well, how do I do that? Well, we can all draw close to him with the veil removed from our faces. So we don't got to fake it till we make it. We got to faith it till we make it.
Speaker 2:Don't fake it and say, well, I got to hold this in and I can't let people know that I'm dealing with this situation or this sin or this, and I don't want to just say sin as a bracket of oh, I'm doing things wrong, I'm drinking, I'm smoking, I'm lying and cheating and hanging out with those. You know that sin even comes in a place of complete doubt. So in that place I want to encourage you to draw and just remove your veil. Scripture tells us that we just remove the veil from our faces, meaning we don't. And with no veil we all become like mirrors who brightly reflect the glory of the Lord Jesus. So even to the person that is there saying well, you know, that sounds good, pastor Giovanna, you're in this place and you get to be free, you hear the Lord and I'm just bound, and God would never want to. But he's saying if you just trust me with you, but just for a moment and be in there and remove all the veils, can I tell you that God's not surprised about what we do or what we haven't done. He's not shocked or he's not like oh my goodness, I can't believe that person did that, said that gossip, lie, cheated. He's not, he counted that all when he went to the cross and said it is finished, just for you. So I say be encouraged. And then sometimes we do have to encourage ourselves.
Speaker 2:There was times that I felt like I had to crawl myself through life and I had to pick up and I had to look in the mirror and not put sticky notes and give myself self-motivation. No, I had to look in the mirror and speak life into myself. You are beautiful, you are worthy, you are lovable. You are able to be forgiven even of that thing that you think you don't deserve to be forgiven, because that's what his, that's what divine grace is. Divine grace is beyond our comprehension to say, like I mean the disciples. If those that are there out there and you know your scripture for those that I'm speaking, speaking to that have some type of knowledge. In church, the disciples, they still were in all in a mystery of who Yeshua really was to them. So give yourself grace. And to that person that just maybe happened to tune, in which I don't think there's any happens or coincidence, it's all Holy Spirit led. So you're like well, I really don't know who God is. This is weird to me. It's new. I don't want to be judged. You know what? I encourage you through my story.
Speaker 2:I went as a young girl, not knowing anything about it, and he revealed himself. I opened a Bible reading stuff that was so foreign. I thought I was reading French, I thought I was trying to learn a new language, didn't know what it was, but the spirit of God, like I said, the Holy Spirit, began to teach me and show me who he is. So in this time we feel that it's so dark, and this world that is so uncertain, know that we serve a God that is certain and that he places a light in us that even in the darkest time of our lives, even the darkest times in other people's lives, we still have a light that's down with the inside of us. He deposits his light into those that are his children.
Speaker 2:How do I know I'm a child of God? When you say, lord, I receive you, I want to live a life with you, you become a child of God, and he never leaves us as orphans. So that would be what I say is to stay on second Corinthians and know that the Holy Spirit is Lord and let him be Lord of over all your life, not some things. All All means all All doesn't mean we get to pick and choose. There was times that I would do that and I would say okay, lord, you get to be Lord over all my finances and make sure to multiply them. But you can't be Lord over my love life because I still want to hold on to a toxic relationship. He doesn't work like that. He wants to be Lord over all our life. Trust him with everything I know. Maybe some watching say I can't trust. I promise you that he'll heal you so much that you'll begin to trust him again and then you'll live a life of freedom amen.
Speaker 1:Would you pray for those that are watching?
Speaker 2:yes. So, heavenly father, god, we just come before you. We give you all the glory, we give you all the honor. We thank you that even in our unfaithfulness you're faithful. I thank you that you're such a personal God. I thank you that time and dimension have no place on you, and what I mean by that, lord, is that that person that is watching that may even be in another, complete different state, that is watching that may even be in another, complete different state. You're right there with them, that your presence is ever present within us. I love that. We don't have to play imagine. Let us just imagine that God is here. No, you are very present, you are very real.
Speaker 2:So I pray for every person that is tuned in right now, or to those that are going to tune in the future, that you already know will tune in, I pray that you would make yourself so real to them that every part that they feel so broken and so lost, god, to that one person that says my mind is so loud, it's so full of torment that I can't even begin to hear the voice of God I pray for that person right now that you will bring your shalom upon their mind, that there would be such a silence that the whisper that they hear would be yours. I pray for the person that hungers and desires for freedom. That they would know that your promises are not empty of power and that you have promised us that if we seek after you, that if we look after you, that you will give us, that you will give us freedom, you will fill us, you will satisfy us. I pray for the person that feels that they need a refresh. They've been serving you for so long. I pray a freshness upon them. I pray that in this moment, that person that has been serving you faithfully for a long time, that you will remind them how good you are, that their heart will burn for you once again, as when their first love with you.
Speaker 2:I pray, father God, for the person that is barely coming in to know you, which I. That was my favorite, because you come and wrap us in like a little baby and you show us your way and you're so gentle with us. I pray that they would find you and know you and get to know you in such a personal way. I thank you for your abundance, but most of all, we just thank you for you, because you are enough. You are enough. You are enough if all we get to have known is that at the cross you said it is finished. That is enough, because you are more than enough in our lives. I pray that our tomorrow will be brighter with you in it, that we would speak your truth in such a gentleness, with love, but with an authority and boldness.
Speaker 2:I pray for that person that has just been in their bed that actually just I just see a person that says I love you, lord, but but I feel so sick in my body. I pray right now a releasing of your healing oil upon them. There's someone else that has been watching and just say I love God, I love him, I love him, I serve him, I love him so much. And he wants you to know that he knows you love him. You love him with everything that you have counted the cost.
Speaker 2:You have said yes, lord, and at this moment he doesn't want you to just focus on the part of you loving him, but he wants you to focus on the part that he loves you. He wants you to feel his love. He wants you to feel the love that he has for you, and there's nothing wrong with that. You feel guilty of that, of pausing and giving yourself permission to feel loved by him. He wants to lavish his love upon us, and so we just give you glory and we give you all the honor. We thank you because you are great, you are almighty, you are the great I am. There is no one beside you, and we thank you that you have chosen us, that you have called us as your own, and we'll be careful to give you all the glory and all the honor. In the mighty name of Yeshua, in in christ, we pray amen amen, amen.
Speaker 1:That's good. The room is thick right now. It's like beautiful. I pray that you will continue to overcome no matter what you face. Believe that God is on your side and that he is never going to leave you. He's never going to forsake you. Thank you for watching Overcomer Podcast. I'm your host, Pastor Jovanna Moreno. Thank you, you're welcome.
Speaker 2:Good night, good night.
